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"....Rose reveals how populism, driven by emotion and prejudice, undermines rational governance and the integrity of republics."

The guy's got cause and effect reversed. Populism is a reaction to a lack of rational governance and the integrity of republics.

Peter, put this one on your reading list if you haven't done so already:

https://oceanofpdf.com/?s=science%20and%20sanity

here's a short synopsis:

https://www.holybooks.com/science-and-sanity-by-alfred-korzybski/

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Interestin' stuff!--the Brits behind the formation of Israel AND their bankers (yup, court joos) likely were not mindful of the facts that Judaism (in original Hebrew, settin' aside misleadin' later translations)-- runs contrary ta BOTH Populism AND Gnosticism. This fact MOST joos DO know, at least if they were raised even "lite-ly" in the faith (I speak from 'sperience)...

(Those who are self-hatin' have no clue.. I'll let that go...)

The anti-jooish elites involved in the formation of Israel were polar opposites to jewish thinkin'-- thus:

1. in Judaism there's a direct phone call ta God, no priests, angels, or "expurts" needed--to wit the famous scenes in "Fiddler on the Roof" where Tevye (an ordinary dairy man!) speaks to god askin' fer guidance an' expectin' an answer (answers come without Tevye realizin' it!)-- Rabbis guide, advise, err an' generally help interpret but they are no more 'n helpers, NOT divine in any way--ditto fer Moses himself--no special "divine gift"--zilch. Just the best guy fer a job. (speakin' of Job--that guy messes up royally an' he's a good example of God not givin' up on his toughest cases!)

This direct-line no "operator" needed approach differs markedly from other faiths where special powers are bestowed upon the priestly class-- Most folks don't know this makes us chews roll a bit differently cuz every schmoe has that direct line... no temple needed, no birthright, no "specialists"... (this isn't about doctors an' laywers an' accountants... ;-)

2. re Populism-- Joos are taught that everyone is good! man is good! we mess up so we must fix but innately good--we don't need God to fergive us if we mess up--we do that ourselfs (Yom Kippur etc). I love Milton (all Miltons! Berle too!) but when it comes ta sin, joos are not born sinners per what we're taught. There is no devil! (There's a guy that is a bit shady to avoid... there is no classic Hell). Nobuddy outside the faith knows this--they draw wrong conclusions..

So... RE both Gnosticism & Populism--ta git a handle on the jooish religion's approach Naomi Wolf has been diggin' inta the original five books of the Torah/Old Testament an' unearthing both the bad later translations (King James bein' the worst!) an' the delightful original Hebrew that shows no impediment 'tween God & us human beans... ADDIN' too that in this same series of readin's we learn quite easily that God believes his creations are all GOOD, not born as sinners--AND we kin fix our screw ups! Even God can (very fallible guy--wuther ya take this stuff literally or as metaphor)--Moses pleads to him not ta destroy all the Golden Calf Worshippers an' abandon 'em all--God obliges. It's a two way conversation!

Here's where you'll find the eye-openin' readings from Naomi --

https://genevabiblereadingsbynaomiwolf.substack.com/?

ALSO...

Contrary ta "popular" opinion (sigh)--even "chosen" doesn't mean "special"--it means DESIGNATED as in "I (God) pick you guys/i.e. da chews, to work on as my test subjects. Yer chosen by me not due to some superior traits but ruther as my very human guinea pigs (kosher sure...) as I'm already familiar with youse guys (prior to Moses & the Ten he already was bizzy workin' on his "invention"--us) AND an' am tryin' ta figger out some laws I think'll stop y'all from feudin' & fightin' an' worse-- Yes, like kids in the front row picked out in class ta pass around the hand-outs. Now (God would say), if a jew I picked sets a good example an' follers my 10 commandments (...er try yer best I don't expect perfection...) you'll be blessed--but either way, even if ya muck it up I won't revoke my covenant." This is what we all were taught-- So even "chosen" is NOT a populist conceit the joos were somehow elites an' should lord it over the non-joos--that's bollocks! --Aside from some folks with big egos that act like their were "God's Gift to Mankind" (we have 'em in every faith--I'll name big headed egotists like this that I abso-loot-ly adore--Teddy Roosevelt & PT Barnum neither joos...) as Joos don't have a patent on big egos at all--"chosen" just means picked. Picked for WORK to DO an' yup, in doin' the work "may they serve as an example set" but only fer follerin' DIRECTIONS -- not b/c "bettah" (folks don't git this either).

THUS the movers & shakers behind the creation of Israel (joos an' non-joos) operated far more in the selfish/Gnostic/Populist British-Venetian vein than what a true-joo would do!

IMHO it so happened that a good thing (creation of Israel's statehood) took place but did so via the not-so-good self-serving graces of the most Anti-Jooish elitists. Those that GRANTED the "gift" also did so with some masonic apron strings that didn't quite work out as planned.. Today tho' nasty "globalists" have their hands ON Israel, the nation's existence runs contrary ta globalism too--if it manages to survive it's really quite the nationlist entity (hence hated by the UN!).

All this ta say that in spite of some crummy / dishonest British-Venetians that started its statehood (mit zum jooish bankers, i.e. the Rotten Rothschilds, natch)--an' in spite of it not behavin' in MANY ways like the Jooish State it should be (by virtue of abandonin' many of its jooish values--here I speak of leaders, not of the ordinary citizens)...WERE it to do so I daresay it COULD be both a jooish state in practice AND a democratic republic which'd be more consistent with jooish values an' faith actCHEWally (indeed a lota ta chew on)--

Good stuff this info tho!

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